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Have trouble starting the oven to preheat

We just bought our house and have this very cool Bertazzoni only problem is that it is too cool. We have a heck of a time trying to preheat the oven. The darn thing keeps shutting off or blowing out? We crack the door of the oven turn the dial to 500 push in and count to 15. (10secs does not work) It looks like it catches then it is out and we start all over again. It can take 5 times to start it, it makes me not want to use the oven. I have read somewhere that LP gas does not heat the oven very well. Would LP gas effect the starting of the oven?? 
thank you for any help, Linda 

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Don't open the door(heat escapes) Turn stove wide open. There should be aboslutly no upsetting small explosions goin on at all. My first thought is the generator is weak. These systems use a pilot generator to operate the flame. If that is not it then the flame sensor itselve is wired into the mix and that is intermittant. I have no way of knowing what type of system your range uses but i can only imagine with your description. cgange the generator. that is my first thought ,it is less than the oven thermostat. the oven thermostat would be the next faulty part in the line.

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