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I need help setting up the shifter fork and spring,after changing clutch,the shift shaft slipped out,,now i only have 1st and 2nd gear,uhg!

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SOURCE: Hard Clutch and 1st and 2nd Gear Shifting is hard

The clutch bearing is supposed to have a groove on the inside where it slides on the shaft That groove is supposed to have a heavy grease applied to it to prevent the bearing running dry on the collar it slides on.Regardless of your driving style, that grease is intended to remain there for the life of the clutch, (generally every clutch I have ever replaced still had some remaining lube there unless the bearing itself failed from a material defect which caused it to overheat and cause that grease to then run out of the retaining groove) I'm not there and can't see the old parts, but in my opinion the first clutch may have failed partially because of your lack of skill in using a stick shift vehicle but the second failure obviously is not your fault if the information you have posted is correct.
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Posted on Apr 17, 2009

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tombones

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SOURCE: 1st gear issues

How do I put this? Yes, you have a bent shift fork. And, yes, they can get bent in a fall, a dump, a drop or whatever terminology is used. The fork engages into a collar on a gear that slides left and right, (slider gear). Large "pins" called "dogs" are cast into the side of the gear. The dogs engage into holes in the side of the gear you are shifting into. Question: What happens if the bike drops on the clutch side and the shift lever is forced down, moving the slider gear to engage first gear even though the holes in the side of first gear are not lined up with the dogs on the slider gear? "You get a bent shift fork" is the correct answer. The force of the shifter lever moving the shift fork into the solid parts of first gear, (not lining up with the holes), is easily great enough to bend a fork. That pressure has got to go somewhere.

The repair means removal of the engine and a complete tear down of the engine/gearbox. The replacement of the bad fork is a given. But I suggest you do some preventative maintenance now, while the engine is apart anyway. Replace the sprocket shaft left bearing and seal, both crankshaft bearings and seals, shift shaft seal and the water pump seals. These are pretty low cost items and replacing them will mean you have pretty much rebuilt the engine. Have the dealer check the shift shaft to be sure it does not now have a bend in it.

Go to the site below where you can see a parts diagram for your specific bike. You will select the actual brand, year, model, etc., once you go to the site. Part numbers and prices are also shown. You can order parts from this site. In the event no price is shown on a particular part, the part is not in stock. http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/viewbybrandand/parts.aspx

Go to this site and you can download a free PDF service manual.
http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp Most of the manuals are in English but some are not. There is no way to be sure without doing the download. You can always delete it if in a foreign language.


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Posted on Jun 07, 2009

Anonymous

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SOURCE: Clutch slipping (only is 2nd gear), on yzf600r

the problem is in the gearbox not in clutch

Posted on Jul 07, 2009

Anonymous

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SOURCE: Trans slips between 2nd and 3rd shift

MV could be the problem. Always work thru issue before buying ANY can of additive. Generally those things just mask the issue..not fix it. Change your fluid,and if that doesnt correct it,then take it in and have the tranny bands tightened. most shops do this relatively in expensively.

Posted on Apr 28, 2010

wd4ity

wd4ity

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SOURCE: 1992 FLSTF fatboy.. everything was ok when i

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it sounds like the shifter pawl return spring has broken on the shifter pawl shaft. Harley has had a problem with these but there is not a recall notice on it as far as I know.

The fix is a major job in that all the primary has to be pulled as well as all the guts in the transmission. The shaft will not come out with the two shafts in the transmission. But, at least the five speed transmission is designed to do this with. Much easier than the older four speed.

I do not recommend that you even start the engine until this is repaired. I've heard of the broken spring getting into the gears and doing even more damage. I've been replacing them with either Sputhe or Jim's parts.

Good Luck
steve

Posted on Oct 02, 2010

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