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What causes intermatic timer to not trip, and stop rotating?

Dual intermatic timer system - one for pool pump, one for polaris. Both timers rotate. Polaris timer trips on/off properly. Pool pump timer rotates to the trip (on or off, depending upon where I set the dial) and then stops rotating and will not trip.

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Binding in the mechanism or a weak motor

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No. I don't have a wiring schematic without knowing what voltage you are using, specifically what Intermatic timer you have, specifically what wires you have coming from breaker box, what wires are on the pump, and what pump rating plate says, what the wiring diagram shows on side of pump, whether you are wiring a 2-speed pump to a single-speed timer, specifically what is the polaris timer clock, and why this pump needs two timers if that's what you mean.
Add a comment with specific information so electrician is not guessing.
http://www.poolcenter.com/polaris-booster-install-OM.pdf

Open following link for 240Volt T104 timer wiring diagram.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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Following link has general maintenance and photos to fix various problems and catch the timer up-to-date:
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What position is lever on intermatic pool timer t104p3 for timer to work?


Lever automatically moves back and forth as trippers pass.
Move lever to ON position, move to the right.
If timer dial is not rotating, then check wiring, or replace clock motor:
If timer worked before and stopped working, but dial still rotates, the trippers are worn down, replace trippers:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-operate-and-set-T104-timer.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/Buy-T100-series-timers.html#pool
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T104

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Pool pump clock


T104M used WG1573 clock motor:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-Intermatic-clock-motor.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#T100
The timer mechanism has metal gears, while the clock motor has plastic gears. If the metal gears get dirty and bind, it will strip the plastic gears.
Turn off power, pull timer out of box, Clean out timer with compressed air, and spray WD40, add a bit of white grease to lever where trippers make contact, then replace clock motor ... and buy another set of trippers to have on-hand since they are designed to wear down so timer will last longer.
If timer body is broken so dial does not rotate, then buy new T104 and snap new mechanism into old box. Buying whole T104 with enclosure is cheaper than buying T104M mechanism only.

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I installed a new T104 m for my pool pump. The clock works fine and it works fine manually. The on and off stops do not turn it on or off. The clock goes right past the on and off stops and they don,...


You installed new 240Volt T104 Intermatic timer.
Cause of problem is not determined, so read information below and then add a comment with further observations.

According to question:
Timer is wired correctly.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
The on-and-off trippers are installed on dial, but do NOT click the override lever back and forth.
Both ON and OFF trippers are on the dial.
And the timer is NEW and not used, and trippers are NEW and not used.
And the dial rotates and keeps good time, making 1 full rotation each 24 hours.
And the manual override lever works and turns load (pool pump) on-and-off.

Open following link to view photo image of OFF tripper coming in contact with manual override lever.
Trippers are soft metal, and made to wear down. When tripper gets old, it will slide over the lever instead of move the lever.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/WH-lever-005-500.jpg
Open following link to read how to set timer, and see close-up images of timer with trippers on dial, and tripper order number for replacement trippers.
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/How-to-operate-and-set-T104-timer.pdf

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Can you send a scematic showing how to wire an intermatic pool pump timer to a polaris intermatic timer so that when the pool pump shuts off so will the polaris pump yet the polaris timer clock continues...


No. I don't have a wiring schematic without knowing what voltage you are using, specifically what Intermatic timer you have, specifically what wires you have coming from breaker box, what wires are on the pump, and what pump rating plate says, what the wiring diagram shows on side of pump, whether you are wiring a 2-speed pump to a single-speed timer, specifically what is the polaris timer clock, and why this pump needs two timers if that's what you mean.
Add a comment with specific information so electrician is not guessing.
http://www.poolcenter.com/polaris-booster-install-OM.pdf

Open following link for 240Volt T104 timer wiring diagram.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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Open following link for T106 240volt troubleshoot and repair steps.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html

Timer is probably repairable if manual override clicks crisp and clean and load turns on-off.
If the timer dial is not rotating or not on time, then replace clock motor. WG number is printed on clock motor.
If dial is rotating on time, then replace 156T1978A trippers.

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Timer will not shut off Pump with tripper.


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1) If this is new installation then timer is probably wired wrong.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

2) If timer worked before and stopped working, and timer dial is rotating and keeping good time, sounds like you need set of 156T1978A trippers.

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The timer clicked OFF but poot pump kept running. Had to trip breaker to stop pool pump.


Your Intermatic timer has a manual override.
The override is a good diagnostic.
Click the manual override and see if pump turns on and off.

Next, watch if the clock is rotating.
If the clock is rotating, the OFF tripper may be worn out and you need a new tripper

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If the clock wheel is not rotating, you need a new clock motor.
If you have T104, your clock motor is 240Volts
If you have T101 or T103, your clock motor is 125Volts
Buy trippers and clock motors at Grainger
Clock motor replacement takes a small star-screwdriver bit
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi

If your manual override is not working, then the gears might be rusty and need to be cleaned or your timer needs to be replaced.
You can buy same model number timer and then swap the insides without changing boxes.

Add a comment if you need more help.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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I have the double timer box one for pool and one


If you can rotate it by hand (without pulling it out to release the gears) then it is probably shot.

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You have to have an 'on' & 'Off 'tripper in place and the timer is rotating/keeping time.

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